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25 October 2004

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skeptix

"Think of it this way (this is one of Mrs. Hamilton's Pamphlets favorite thought provokers): If the non-believers are correct and there is no God and nothing after death, then by living a religious life you have been a good person and lived a life to be proud of. However, what if the Believers are right? And they say we lack intelligence?"

This is a completely fallacious argument. You mean you can fake out God?
The idea that religion gives us morality, I believe, is also false. In my opinion, religion was defined by our moral principles, not the other way around.

I will say, however, that I don't see religion as a mental disorder. I see it for what it is...faith. Unproven...and who needs to prove it? It's pure arrogance for Maher to make that statement. By his logic, anyone who does not agree with him on any particular issue has some mental disorder. And it's not just our nation. He, in essence, is referring to the majority of the world's population as idiots when he says that.

Alexander

skeptix -
Thanks for your comment. Really made me think. However, I think either I was unclear or you mis-interpreted my comment.
"If the non-believers are correct and there is no God and nothing after death, then by living a religious life you have been a good person and lived a life to be proud of. However, what if the Believers are right? And they say we lack intelligence?"
You said:
This is a completely fallacious argument. You mean you can fake out God?"
My response:
If a person believes that there is no God, whom would you be "faking out"? My point is that even if the non-believers are right (and I don't believe they are) by living a good and moral life (as defined by the Bible/Christian teachings) then you can be rightly proud of the way you conducted yourself in your life. Again, if there is no God, you lived an honorable life. No more, no less, no "faking" anyone or any diety.
Further, on your comment:
"The idea that religion gives us morality, I believe, is also false. In my opinion, religion was defined by our moral principles, not the other way around."
My response:
You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but it is my belief that our moral foundation came from God through the Prophets (old testament) and Jesus (new testament). They fit us as though we invented them because God invented us as well as the moral guidlines he desires us to follow. That's what I belive, anyhow.
Great comments. Really thought provoking. Thanks!


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